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Dynamix 3000 16:8:2 desk info wanted

Postby bjtaudio » Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:36 pm

Greetings all,
I'm putting together a project studio again since I finally have a bit more cash to spend than when I was trying to set up about 10 years ago while studying. I'm looking for an "interesting" 16 or 24 channel desk with 8 sub groups to feed into my MOTU interface and I want to avoid the usual Behringer / Mackie stuff. I've come across an old Dynamix 3000 16:8:2 console which appears to be in very good condition. Googling for half and hour or so didn't reveal much, although I found one comment from an audio engineer that stated Dynamix consoles were designed by Malcom Toft - can anyone verify this?

The variable insert send/return controls look appealing, and the general build quality seems pretty good. I intend to record synths, guitar and perhaps some vocals and really just want something with a bit of character.

Any comments or advice on this desk would be most appreciated :)

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Postby bjtaudio » Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:46 pm

Looks like there aren't many of these consoles around... I've taken a chance on it for the tidy sum of $655Aus. Will post a bit of a review once it arrives.

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Postby CE-Music » Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:34 pm

Hi...
Is it one of those....?


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If yes, I it may be a "Starsound Dynamix"...
Searchresults are quite similar...I started with one of these...

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It was in really bad shape and not modular...grounding wires were soldered all across the channelboards...Working with that was a pain....I guess any mackie product would have been better

I got one of the D&R 4000 (mkII) series now...it also needs maintenance but its modular and easy to clean...

Do you want to use it for mixing or just mono or stereo tracking?

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Postby bjtaudio » Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:57 pm

Here's a picture of the desk...

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I intend to mix multiple synths etc for recording/tracking into my MOTU interface, and possibly mix completed tracks using the MOTU's 8 outs, depending on the sound quality of the desk. I also want to experiment with effects by patching in several units and tweaking away until things start feeding back on themselves for creating unique sound scapes. I wouldn't mind recording some drums either, but I'm limited with room!

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Postby rob s » Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:53 pm

these are actually pretty decent consoles.
i know someone here in Los Angeles that has one and has done
lots of very effective mods to the desk.
power supply, 2 buss, eq, re chipping.
it works really well.
i'm not talking about it sounds good for the money.
it sounds really good period.
the big jimmy eat world record of a few years back was recorded onitas well as hey dellilah by Plain White T's.
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Postby CE-Music » Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:27 am

Hi there...
Do you have chance to try before you buy...?
It would be the easiest way to find out if it works properly....
Are willing to put some time into possible maintenance...?...
Do you have schematics for it...?...This should be considered too...
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Postby CE-Music » Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:58 am

Oh sorry I just read you already bought it....so never mind....
Don't forget the review though :D ...I'd like to read it
Good luck
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Postby Jim Williams » Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:22 pm

rob s wrote:these are actually pretty decent consoles.
i know someone here in Los Angeles that has one and has done
lots of very effective mods to the desk.
power supply, 2 buss, eq, re chipping.
it works really well.


That would be Doug Messenger over in NoHo. He has a 48 channel model with a Stevens 24 track and a couple of Echoplate II's. He used to sell Dynamix back in the 1980's.
I did all the mods on that desk. It has the front end transformers removed and replaced with new mic preamp cards. The EQ was redone using LT1358 opamps and Wima polyprop caps. The master mix sum 5534 opamp was replaced with custom grounded base summing amp cards to resolve 48 channels without loop gain THD problems. It is a nice sounding console, powered by Lamda PSU's.
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Postby rob s » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:58 pm

yeah jim thats the one.
i think dave gallo has also worked some magic on it as well.
pretty awesome stuff.
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Re: Dynamix 3000 16:8:2 desk info wanted

Postby Ash » Thu May 14, 2009 3:11 pm

RE Jim's and Rob's comments: That desk has been worked on by Jim, Dave Gallo, and originally, Deane Jensen, who first pointed out that the D3000 was ready to be a real board if certain issues were addressed. It has ten transformerless channels (Jim's design) and thirty-eight Jensen transformer-based channels. The eq curves and sweep ranges have been altered (Deane and Jim, in cahoots with Doug Messenger, who instigated the mods and provided hands-on feedback). A well-modified D3000, with massive Lambda power supplies, polystyrene and polypropylene caps, non-polar electrolytics, bypassed with 1mf caps and modern, lo-noise opamps, has a big, very tight low end, silky smooth top, and terrific transient response, which means: this mother is fat, punchy and smooth. Also, the very low parts count per channel and the Lambdas' ridiculously low ripple (150 MICROvolts) make it a very quiet desk. A cool feature is the insert circuit, which has a level control out and a pan or blend pot on the return, so that the channel signal can be blended with the compressed or effected return, in any proportion. On all other desk, this takes multing a signal and returning the effected signal to a second fader.
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